12 Nov Founders Helping Founders
Founders Helping Founders with Amy Chang of Accompany
[01:02] The moment Amy realized she was ready to lean into the fear and start a company
[05:40] How she handled the discomfort of early startup life and leaning into the unknown
[08:35] The importance of acknowledging fear and insecurity and using it to fuel your success
[15:01] The moment at Google that inspired Accompany and Amy’s mission to improve relationship insights
[17:55] Amy shares advice to new entrepreneurs about getting through challenging moments
[21:06] Amy discusses the M&A process with Cisco
Q&A with Amy Chang
In 2012, Amy Chang founded Accompany, a relationship intelligence platform that used machine learning and AI to help business professionals enhance and grow their most important relationships. Prior to starting Accompany, Amy was best known for building Google Analytics from the ground up into one of the most widely used web analytic products on the internet. While at Google, Amy discovered the power of data to help people create faster connections; her goal at Accompany was to democratize this knowledge for everyone. Accompany was acquired by Cisco for $270 million in May 2018 and became the foundation for Cisco’s machine learning and AI platform inside of its collaboration suite.
In our latest Founders Helping Founders episode, we talk with Amy about growing up as an outsider to Silicon Valley, her initial inspiration to start a company, and why every founder ends up taking out the garbage at the end of a late night at work.
Cisco, May 1, 2018
Accompany developed comprehensive, real-time profiles for every single Fortune 500 CEO. Our AI-driven database provided rich, relevant insights for millions of people and companies, so our users could always find the right people and build stronger relationships.
Decibel by Amy Chang, April 29, 2019
What does every good product person & engineer really want in their heart of hearts? Having your product touch hundreds of millions of people.
Fortune by Leena Rao, August 3, 2016
When Google product executive Amy Chang was trying to sell premium versions of Google Analytics to companies, she would find herself in rooms of 15 to 20 people, many of whom she had met for the first time. “I didn’t have time to look up their bios and prep 20 different briefing docs on everyone,” Chang explained.
Jon Sakoda: When did you decide that you were ready to start a new company?
I grew up in Texas and moved to Silicon Valley for college. At the time, I didn’t have any relationships in the tech industry, and without my network from Stanford I don’t think I would be sitting here with you today. As an outsider, I never took anything in my network for granted and in the back of my mind I always had the idea to start a company that could help people build better personal connections using data and relationship insights. It was surprising to me that the more successful our business became at Google, the greater the itch I had to start something from scratch all over again. I didn’t realize my idea had become all consuming until my husband eventually pointed out that I stopped sleeping and couldn’t stop talking about building my new product. He was the one who ultimately encouraged me to take the leap and become an entrepreneur.
JS: Every founder encounters challenges in the very beginning. What were some of the lessons learned for you?
AC: In the beginning, hiring is a big challenge for a startup and I think most founders believe they can build a perfect executive team. At Accompany, we hired amazing people but also made a significant hiring mistake early and it’s still painful to remember. When your team is small, it affects everyone when someone is either not performing or is not a cultural fit, but you have to address it as quickly as possible. Most founders might take too long to make this decision – I know I obsessed about it for much longer than was healthy. Now, I coach founders to count to three and on the third time that they are thinking that it’s time to let someone go, they should make the move.
JS: What advice would you give for execs in larger companies who are considering starting a company?
AC: Transitioning from a large tech company to a small startup is a challenge for everyone, and I still remember what a difference it was for me. I always warn people that you need to be ready to get your hands dirty, and I mean that literally and figuratively. In the earliest days of Accompany, I remember we were celebrating some great customer momentum with a sushi dinner in the office. After the meal was over, everyone went back to work and was sprinting to finish an important release. The trash was already overflowing and the office started to stink of fish. This was the moment when I learned that founders need to do whatever it takes to make the team successful, including taking the garbage out at the end of the night.
JS: Before Cisco acquired Accompany, how did you think about exiting and the M&A process for your company?
AC: The M&A story is often as unique as a founding story. When founders ask me for advice, I spend a lot of time asking questions to understand their specific journey. There is no one-size-fits-all approach but I do encourage people to think hard about criteria above and beyond shareholder value. For me, there were three important criteria. First, I had always wanted my product to have the greatest impact as possible and at Cisco, Accompany would reach 300 million users – that’s an amazing feeling for a founder. Second, I wanted to be a part of an organization that shared my culture and values. For two years, I served on the Cisco board, spent time with the leadership team, and felt that our company shared very similar views about making a positive impact in our communities. Finally, I respected that Cisco gave autonomy and leadership opportunities for founders and executives of the companies they acquired. This was very unique among large tech acquirers and was a big reason why I was excited to partner with Cisco.
JS: If you could go back in time, what advice would you give your younger self?
AC: If I could go back, I would tell my younger self to worry less about things that might come to pass and to be less fearful. I got great coaching later in life that I try to pass on to others – we need to lean into our fears and turn them to our advantage. The reality is that every founder has fears. Fear of not getting funding. Fear of not growing. Fear of losing to competitors. Fear is everywhere in a startup but the key is to make it a tailwind, allow it to focus you, to motivate you, and make it work for you. I try to help people own their fear as opposed to having fear own you – it’s a small but powerful shift in mindset that can bring out the best in a founder.
“The reality is that every founder has fears. Fear is everywhere in a startup but the key is to make it a tailwind, allow it to focus you, to motivate you, and make it work for you”
👇👀 Check out the latest Founders Helping Founders episode w/ @_amychanghttps://t.co/Yu8O9jEOwW
— Dan Nguyen-Huu (@dannguyenhuu) November 12, 2020
We all wake up with some uncertainty and doubt, which can lead to fear. Entrepreneurs learn to take this emotion and use it to their advantage. “You have to lean into the fear – let it fuel you” – wisdom from @_amychang @DecibelVC https://t.co/ocXhxwsi8z
— Jon Sakoda (@jonsakoda) May 15, 2019
I’m excited to share @DecibelVC‘s latest episode of “Founders Helping Founders” w/ @_amychang, founder and CEO of Accompany (acquired by @Cisco) and board member @ProcterGamble. We go deep and discuss why every founder needs to lean into their fears 👇
— Jon Sakoda (@jonsakoda) November 12, 2020
Congrats to my good friend @_amychang – so great to see you recognized for your leadership @Cisco! https://t.co/s0hFFadjls
— Jon Sakoda (@jonsakoda) November 30, 2018
We are honored to work with @_amychang as a @DecibelVC Founder Advisor where she will counsel our founders to “lean into the fear”. @Cisco #foundershelpingfounders https://t.co/6TievXYvp4
— Decibel (@DecibelVC) April 29, 2019
“It’s not the things you did that you’ll end up regretting one day, but the things that you were too afraid to do.” – @_amychang
— Decibel (@DecibelVC) April 9, 2020
“What does every good product person and engineer really want in their heart of hearts? What’s the high that just can’t be replaced by anything else? Having your product touch hundreds of millions of people.” – @_AmyChang
— Decibel (@DecibelVC) February 24, 2020
Looking forward to partnering with the incredible women of @Cisco @Janey_C_H, @_amychang, @gerri_elliott (just to name a few) #exponentialpower #foundershelpingfounders https://t.co/5pl6qn7KWx
— Decibel (@DecibelVC) March 27, 2019
In today’s Founders Helping Founders episode, we chat with @_amychang, founder of @accompany – acquired by @Cisco for $270M, about her inspiration to start a company and why every founder should be ready to take out the trash at the end of a late night. https://t.co/ZxMWKxyRvi
— Decibel (@DecibelVC) November 12, 2020